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T O P I C R E V I E WSaraiHow do you know when you've achieved it? How do you express it to your partner? How do you feel it should be expressed to you?SPurple_Chick_71This is an awesome question! And it's in keeping with a conversation my SO and I just had...I think true intimacy is KNOWING the other person. What I mean is, not just knowing facts about him or her (family background, job, etc...) but knowing who the other person really is. What is important to them, what makes them happy, sad, angry, etc...Knowing what they would likely do in a given situation, having trust and faith in them. EDIT: Forgot about the "expressing it" part. I guess it is best expressed by understanding them, and being understood. THAT'S a great feeling!------------------Sun - Capricorn (10th House)Moon - Gemini (2nd House)Mercury - Sagittarius (9th House)Venus - Aquarius (11th House)Mars - Aries (12th House)ASC - AriesGlaucusBeing vulnerable and naked(not just physically,emotionally) with each other. Soul,emotional sharing and merging.Purple_Chick_71Glaucus...yep! That too!!! DainBramagedFeeling things with telling things to your partner about you that you haven't told anyone else and would never even dream of telling anyone else. Like ...taboo **** . Inner-thoughts. Scary intimacy. Feeling like you could do this at any time with each other, and feel perfectly comfortable. Feel like you understand and know each other's souls and what the other most deeply desires in order to be happy.augentierI agree with PurpleChick, knowing the other person to the point of knowing how he/she will react to or think about something..knowing very personal secrets, hurts, insecurities. And knowing how to hurt each other easily because you know exactly what buttons to push. I have this type of intimacy with a very good friend..there is nothing sexual about my feelings toward him so for me true intimacy does not have to do with sex at all.------------------Capricorn sun / Scorpio rising / Sagittarius moonMercury:: SagittariusVenus::ScorpioMars::PiscesDainBramagedHey, augentier, just wanted to let you know you have the placements my best friend Sigourney has http://www.myspace.com/strawberryquiet augentierReally..like all of them or just the top 3? ------------------Capricorn sun / Scorpio rising / Sagittarius moonMercury:: SagittariusVenus::ScorpioMars::PiscesDainBramagedJUst the top 3..... BLKFoxI believe when you have true intimacy with someone, you can let your guard down, & you still feel safe...Conversely, when you have true intimacy with someone, you can "feel" them...their emotions.AND, having said all that...I really can't "hang out" in the emotional states for extended lengths of time...I begin feeling squirrelly....janeFor me, true intimacy is when someone reaches that quiet part of myself that usually feels like it's separate from everything and everyone else. When that happens, it feels natural, even compulsory, for me to share all of who I am with that person. And sharing is pleasurable & freeing and happens over time, all the time. I have this feeling steadily with only two people. With others, I'll have moments where I'll feel that total connection, and it's real in that moment and forever makes me feel bonded, but it's not a constantly intimate relationship.What happens more often in my close relationships is a part (but not all) of me will feel completely connected with the other person. And that's a beautiful thing too. I'd say that's true intimacy, while the first scenario I described is total intimacy. I feel it should be expressed to me in whatever way the other person feels natural expressing it. Mannu>>>How do you know when you've achieved it? When you stop asking you know you achieved it LOL>>How do you express it to your partner? By understanding your context of expression. If you are angry , your partner will not appear sexy to you. If you are full of love. He/she will be loving to you.The outside that appears is your own inner projection on the world.>>>How do you feel it should be expressed to you?Unconditional love expects no return. You love yourself unconditionally. So will you your partner. Because you see only self in others. It is you that shines brilliantly in the sun. It is you that you see in the earth as it waits for the sun lights of early dawn to kiss it. It is you that you see in the flowers blooming. It is only your self that is in negative things as well but disguised.SaraiThanks so much for sharing. Very interesting!!tragedyI would just like to add, at this point,how some of the above posts, might seem to perfectly illustrate the "wounded healer" symblogies attributed by some to Chiron.( as far as "real " intimacy is concerned) And, also, I'd like to point to the Magi, who claim that Chiron contacts are the most important for personal relationships. Food for thought anyway
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I think true intimacy is KNOWING the other person. What I mean is, not just knowing facts about him or her (family background, job, etc...) but knowing who the other person really is. What is important to them, what makes them happy, sad, angry, etc...Knowing what they would likely do in a given situation, having trust and faith in them.
EDIT: Forgot about the "expressing it" part. I guess it is best expressed by understanding them, and being understood. THAT'S a great feeling!
------------------Sun - Capricorn (10th House)Moon - Gemini (2nd House)Mercury - Sagittarius (9th House)Venus - Aquarius (11th House)Mars - Aries (12th House)ASC - Aries
I have this type of intimacy with a very good friend..there is nothing sexual about my feelings toward him so for me true intimacy does not have to do with sex at all.
------------------Capricorn sun / Scorpio rising / Sagittarius moon
Mercury:: SagittariusVenus::ScorpioMars::Pisces
I have this feeling steadily with only two people. With others, I'll have moments where I'll feel that total connection, and it's real in that moment and forever makes me feel bonded, but it's not a constantly intimate relationship.
What happens more often in my close relationships is a part (but not all) of me will feel completely connected with the other person. And that's a beautiful thing too. I'd say that's true intimacy, while the first scenario I described is total intimacy.
I feel it should be expressed to me in whatever way the other person feels natural expressing it.
>>How do you express it to your partner?
By understanding your context of expression. If you are angry , your partner will not appear sexy to you. If you are full of love. He/she will be loving to you.The outside that appears is your own inner projection on the world.
>>>How do you feel it should be expressed to you?
Unconditional love expects no return. You love yourself unconditionally. So will you your partner. Because you see only self in others. It is you that shines brilliantly in the sun. It is you that you see in the earth as it waits for the sun lights of early dawn to kiss it. It is you that you see in the flowers blooming. It is only your self that is in negative things as well but disguised.
And, also, I'd like to point to the Magi, who claim that Chiron contacts are the most important for personal relationships.
Food for thought anyway
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